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  HELLO, IM NEW HERE

  by juanvazquez88 in

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  hello my brothers in ttatt.

  my name es juan, im from mexico, im catholic and my wife is a jehovah witness, expelled, of course.. therefore, she still believes in the organization, and she said that they were fine with her expulsion, cause she deserve it, cause our marriage with me.

  any help, or someone with a similar experience will be good for me.

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  Bienvenido paisa Juan,

  Yo estoy casado con una testigo. Nos casamos hace 19 anos. Cuando anunciamos nuestra boda su familia entera (testigos) rehuso asistir. Los ancianos prepararon un discurso cruel enfatizando que ella era "una mancha" para la congregacion. Tambien le quitaron el privilegio de hacer comentarios. Pero nunca la expulsaron. Cuando todo se calmo, los anciano le pidieron disculpas usando el texto biblico de proverbios "la luz se hace mas intensa" o algo asi. Pidieron disculpas porque el ciervo de circuito les metio una reganada. El punto es que casarse con un "pagano" no amerita expulsion, a menos que ustedes se hayan comido la torta antes del recreo, o alguna otra falta grave.

  FOR THOSE WHO DONT UNDERSTAND SPANISH, I AM SAYING REALLY BAD THINGS ABOUT ALL OF YOU.
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  Why did you stop believing in God?

  by The Quiet One in

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  I was about 13 when I got deeper into science and evolution, which were a good reason to get rid of the "loving" spirit who would send me to hell for missing Mass. Never looked back. Lately, at 48, I am discovering that my instincts in my youth were right on the money. The God of the Bible is just a fabrication by men to control men.
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  I hope this is a joke.

  by dazed but not confused in

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  i sure hope this is a joke.... .

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  never a jw

  That is proof that the time for being a passive observer is over. America and its religious right (and JW's too) are becoming ridiculous and quite the laughing stock among the industrialized nations. Time to fight back.
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  A newbie...

  by Jaidubdub in

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  i'm new here but have been lurking here for a couple of months.

  i am 3rd gen born in but have been inactive for a few years but always had the intention to make another go of the truth, but not now that i know ttatt.

  i became inactive due to the inhumane treatment from family members who are elders.

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  never a jw

  Welcome JDD. You will find caring people here. Many also are well informed and most are not judgemental of whatever creed or philosophy you embrace. Make the best of your life. Life is beautiful and the world is filled with beautiful people in and out of the ORG.
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  Watchtower vs. the Roman Catholic Church

  by Farkel in

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  the roman catholic church (rcc) religious leaders wear ridiculous clothing.. wts elders wear ridiculous cheap suits.. .

  one can wear a beard and still be a priest in the rcc.. one can wear a beard in the wts, but never be an elder with one.

  it's bible-based(tm).

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  never a jw

  Thanks, very funny. I am saving it and showing itto others
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  Baptism of a chid and an elder's response to my objection

  by never a jw in

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  i just learned that an 11 year old kid is taking the questions for baptism.

  as soon as his father finished tellig me this, i told him that he should make his son wait, but he responded that he couldn't go against jehovah' spirit.

  i gave the guy a break because he is the uneducated and naive immigrant who puts his heart, not his mind, into the religion.

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  Nickolas,

  I get what you are saying. I think I am mostly speaking my mind at the same time trying to cause the elder to reconsider allowing children to baptize. I had a conversation on the same subject with this elder, right in my own dining room, about 11 months ago. I was a lot more civil back then.

  At this point, after learning all there is to learn about the WT, I no longer can have much restrain. Since I have been very open, even insulting, with my brothers, nephews and two elders (all JW's), I am actually thinking that soon I am going to be shunned by many. It may not be an easy decision for the elders to make because my wife and daugter are JW's in good standing. Also, I employ, and therefore am the financial support, for two JW's heads of household, and technically I am not an apostate. However, the shunnining, if it happens in full force, maybe a tough, but a necessary break. This may produce the incentive I need to move my family to a different location and start fresh with the intention to move my family into freedom and the real world.

  I trust your experience and wisdom. Feel free to comment.
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  Baptism of a chid and an elder's response to my objection

  by never a jw in

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  i just learned that an 11 year old kid is taking the questions for baptism.

  as soon as his father finished tellig me this, i told him that he should make his son wait, but he responded that he couldn't go against jehovah' spirit.

  i gave the guy a break because he is the uneducated and naive immigrant who puts his heart, not his mind, into the religion.

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  Mum, yes I thank wise people who lived before me and have helped humanity (some of it) advance and walk away from supertition that holds so many people captive to the whims of religious leaders, who everyday bend the content of old superstion books to fit their own goals (power, money, influence)
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  Baptism of a chid and an elder's response to my objection

  by never a jw in

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  i just learned that an 11 year old kid is taking the questions for baptism.

  as soon as his father finished tellig me this, i told him that he should make his son wait, but he responded that he couldn't go against jehovah' spirit.

  i gave the guy a break because he is the uneducated and naive immigrant who puts his heart, not his mind, into the religion.

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  .Dismissing servant,

  I know I am confrontational. The reasoning and the nice language are behind. I tried them repeatedly. At this point I am mad as hell and I can't take it anymore. The elder has more self restrain than I do and he still answers my emails. Good, I am not finished venting.
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  Baptism of a chid and an elder's response to my objection

  by never a jw in

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  i just learned that an 11 year old kid is taking the questions for baptism.

  as soon as his father finished tellig me this, i told him that he should make his son wait, but he responded that he couldn't go against jehovah' spirit.

  i gave the guy a break because he is the uneducated and naive immigrant who puts his heart, not his mind, into the religion.

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  Here's my reply to his reply Mr. Elder, Surprised?. Have you been deleting without reading my e-mails of the last 12 months, or are you sarcastic? What is the point of having elders if they are incapable of using common sense, especially in situations as important as the baptism of a child. So if (name deleted) wants to marry tomorrow, quit school, or take any other unwise path, you and the body of elders sholud give your blessing and restrained from any advice. Your answer is so inconsistent with your eagerness to disfellowship at the slightest sign of disagreement. Why don't we stop the unbiblical Judicial Committees and follow the same biblical advice you are using to justify your allowing the baptism of a child. So inconsistent, Galatians 6:4-5 is good for the entrance, but not for the exit. The Bible is such a dangerous book in the hands of mind controlled zealots. Are you guys blind? Don't you see the religious intolerance that you apply, when years later you cast out and ostracized these children for changing their mind? Don 't you see your Middle Ages inquisitional religious attitude?. (Name deleted) is only a child. How can you expect him to have the slightest hint of maturity to make such a huge decision as to commit to a religion that demands unquestioning allegiance to its doctrine and is willing to ruin the lives of those who don't fully adhere to its rigorous and unreasonable rules. You are only stregthenning my conviction that the WT grip on its members is very unhealthy and harmful to people, especially the young ones.
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  Apostacitis

  by Rufus T. Firefly in

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  apostacitis is a term denoting a condition with which the watchtower society has become thoroughly infected, particularly since the year 1981 when sincere christians who merely resigned from the organization over principled differences in belief became viewed the same as unrepentant wrongdoers (1 cor.

  5:11) and as those rejecting the good news about the christ (2 john 9-11).

  there was a time when news of one becoming an apostate was so rare among witnesses that it sent shockwaves throughout the organization.

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  never a jw

  Does David also go by the name of Rufus T. Firefly?

  Welcome Rufus. I think you will be a valuable contributor.